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	<title>Comments on: The Dangers of Scientism &#8211; Part Three</title>
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		<title>By: Sister Maria Philomena, M.I.C.M.</title>
		<link>http://ihm.catholicism.org/2008/11/the-dangers-of-scientism-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Maria Philomena, M.I.C.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Anirudh, for your interest and observations. As our discussion progresses, however, we need to define some terms. Hinduism, even a secular humanistic Hinduism, does not share the same premises as Philosophia Perennis.

For example, our definitions include the following:

        *God is the supreme, uncreated, eternal Being.

        *Man (each human person) is a complete substance composed of a material body and a spiritual soul (created by God at the moment of  conception).
 
        *The soul is &quot;the principle of life in a material being.&quot; In plants, this principle has three powers: Growth, Reproduction, and Nutrition (or Assimilation). In animals, sixteen powers are added to these first three: Locomotion, the five outer senses (Taste, Touch, Hearing, Sight, Smell),  the four inner senses (Memory, Imagination, Instinct, Common Sense--a central communication system for all the senses), the Concupisible Passions (Love, Hate,  Desire, Aversion, Pleasure, Pain,), and the Irascible Passions  (Hope, Despair, Fear, Daring, Anger). Man has twenty one powers: the three we  share with plants and animals, the sixteen we share with just animals, and two more: Intellect and Will (which we share with the angels . . .&quot;made in the image and likeness of God&quot;).

        *Meditation is the mental activity, where we consider things in light of eternal truths, combined with prayer, which is communication with God. And when we are communicating with God, we are reaching outside of  ourselves to another Being, not to some sort of cosmic consciousness within.
 
        *Wisdom is the science of salvation, not just being smart and considerate. Holy Scripture (the Bible) is God&#039;s revelation to man: the textbook of wisdom.
 
From the comments that have been posted, I will list what some of Anirudh&#039;s assumptions seem to be. After each one, I will add a short note that shows how they differ from the ideas we hold to be true.
 
        *Without the soul there is still a human person (we maintain that there no person: just a dead body).
 
        *That the intellect or mind is something separate from the soul (as you can see from our definitions, we say that it isn&#039;t: intellect is one of the powers of the spiritual soul).
 
        *That emotions are equivalent to ideas (we hold that emotions are powers of feeling that we share with the animals, but ideas are unique to beings with spiritual powers: men, angels, God).
 
        *That wisdom can be quantified. (We hold that wisdom is a spiritual entity and, as such, cannot be measured by the &quot;accident&quot; of quantity.  We refer you to Aristotle&#039;s Ten Categories.).
 
        *That the divine can be found by looking within (as you can see from our comments, we hold that God is found outside of ourselves).
 
        *That spiritual power is channeled through specific areas of the body (we maintain that, while bodily posture is important for showing  reverence, there is no particular part of the body that receives Divine power.)

We thank Anirudh for his comments but believe that it is very important for our readers to understand how the ideas he expressed differ from those we hold as Catholics in the long tradition of Philosophia Perennis.  We maintain that ideas have consequences and that clear thinking can help everyone to discover the path that leads to the Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Anirudh, for your interest and observations. As our discussion progresses, however, we need to define some terms. Hinduism, even a secular humanistic Hinduism, does not share the same premises as Philosophia Perennis.</p>
<p>For example, our definitions include the following:</p>
<p>        *God is the supreme, uncreated, eternal Being.</p>
<p>        *Man (each human person) is a complete substance composed of a material body and a spiritual soul (created by God at the moment of  conception).</p>
<p>        *The soul is &#8220;the principle of life in a material being.&#8221; In plants, this principle has three powers: Growth, Reproduction, and Nutrition (or Assimilation). In animals, sixteen powers are added to these first three: Locomotion, the five outer senses (Taste, Touch, Hearing, Sight, Smell),  the four inner senses (Memory, Imagination, Instinct, Common Sense&#8211;a central communication system for all the senses), the Concupisible Passions (Love, Hate,  Desire, Aversion, Pleasure, Pain,), and the Irascible Passions  (Hope, Despair, Fear, Daring, Anger). Man has twenty one powers: the three we  share with plants and animals, the sixteen we share with just animals, and two more: Intellect and Will (which we share with the angels . . .&#8221;made in the image and likeness of God&#8221;).</p>
<p>        *Meditation is the mental activity, where we consider things in light of eternal truths, combined with prayer, which is communication with God. And when we are communicating with God, we are reaching outside of  ourselves to another Being, not to some sort of cosmic consciousness within.</p>
<p>        *Wisdom is the science of salvation, not just being smart and considerate. Holy Scripture (the Bible) is God&#8217;s revelation to man: the textbook of wisdom.</p>
<p>From the comments that have been posted, I will list what some of Anirudh&#8217;s assumptions seem to be. After each one, I will add a short note that shows how they differ from the ideas we hold to be true.</p>
<p>        *Without the soul there is still a human person (we maintain that there no person: just a dead body).</p>
<p>        *That the intellect or mind is something separate from the soul (as you can see from our definitions, we say that it isn&#8217;t: intellect is one of the powers of the spiritual soul).</p>
<p>        *That emotions are equivalent to ideas (we hold that emotions are powers of feeling that we share with the animals, but ideas are unique to beings with spiritual powers: men, angels, God).</p>
<p>        *That wisdom can be quantified. (We hold that wisdom is a spiritual entity and, as such, cannot be measured by the &#8220;accident&#8221; of quantity.  We refer you to Aristotle&#8217;s Ten Categories.).</p>
<p>        *That the divine can be found by looking within (as you can see from our comments, we hold that God is found outside of ourselves).</p>
<p>        *That spiritual power is channeled through specific areas of the body (we maintain that, while bodily posture is important for showing  reverence, there is no particular part of the body that receives Divine power.)</p>
<p>We thank Anirudh for his comments but believe that it is very important for our readers to understand how the ideas he expressed differ from those we hold as Catholics in the long tradition of Philosophia Perennis.  We maintain that ideas have consequences and that clear thinking can help everyone to discover the path that leads to the Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Anirudh Kumar Satsan</title>
		<link>http://ihm.catholicism.org/2008/11/the-dangers-of-scientism-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Anirudh Kumar Satsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respected Sister Maria’s objections/queries are quite genuine.  Soul provides vitality not only to mind and intellect but to our body also.  Mind and intellect are less spiritual to soul and body is least spiritual of all.

Meditation is the art of looking within and science of doing nothing.  We don’t use anything in meditation.  We just try to concentrate to meditate at some point in human anatomy known as ‘chakra’ in Indian System of Yoga.  The current of mind is flowing outward through the senses and unconsciously.  The mind comes at rest gradually through regular practice of meditation.  Then comes self realization.

E.Q. stands for Emotional Quotient.  An intelligent person may not be wise.  But a wise man will always be intelligent.  An intelligent person having certain level of positive emotions can be said as wise.  An intelligent person lacking wisdom will turn autocrat.  A wise man will always be a democrat who respects others existence.

If Mental Age of I.Q. can be quantified then Wisdom can also be quantified, of course, comparatively with more efforts.

Thank you, for showing interest in my post and your querries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respected Sister Maria’s objections/queries are quite genuine.  Soul provides vitality not only to mind and intellect but to our body also.  Mind and intellect are less spiritual to soul and body is least spiritual of all.</p>
<p>Meditation is the art of looking within and science of doing nothing.  We don’t use anything in meditation.  We just try to concentrate to meditate at some point in human anatomy known as ‘chakra’ in Indian System of Yoga.  The current of mind is flowing outward through the senses and unconsciously.  The mind comes at rest gradually through regular practice of meditation.  Then comes self realization.</p>
<p>E.Q. stands for Emotional Quotient.  An intelligent person may not be wise.  But a wise man will always be intelligent.  An intelligent person having certain level of positive emotions can be said as wise.  An intelligent person lacking wisdom will turn autocrat.  A wise man will always be a democrat who respects others existence.</p>
<p>If Mental Age of I.Q. can be quantified then Wisdom can also be quantified, of course, comparatively with more efforts.</p>
<p>Thank you, for showing interest in my post and your querries.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Maria Philomena, M.I.C.M.</title>
		<link>http://ihm.catholicism.org/2008/11/the-dangers-of-scientism-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Maria Philomena, M.I.C.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would agree with Anirudh&#039;s first two sentences, but the third sentence reduces a spiritual function (the mind = the intellect, which is a power of the spiritual soul) to one that is material. This is a perfect example of what Brother Francis is criticizing as &quot;scientism&quot;: that science must be able to explain everything. 

If the mind is a function of the autonomic nervous system, what are you using in meditation to &quot;control it?&quot; This is circular reasoning.

And regarding the formula for &quot;E.Q.&quot; (what does the &quot;E&quot; mean?): How do you quantify wisdom?

Wisdom is &quot;the most perfect knowledge of the most important truths in the right order of emphasis, accompanied by a total permanent disposition to live accordingly.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would agree with Anirudh&#8217;s first two sentences, but the third sentence reduces a spiritual function (the mind = the intellect, which is a power of the spiritual soul) to one that is material. This is a perfect example of what Brother Francis is criticizing as &#8220;scientism&#8221;: that science must be able to explain everything. </p>
<p>If the mind is a function of the autonomic nervous system, what are you using in meditation to &#8220;control it?&#8221; This is circular reasoning.</p>
<p>And regarding the formula for &#8220;E.Q.&#8221; (what does the &#8220;E&#8221; mean?): How do you quantify wisdom?</p>
<p>Wisdom is &#8220;the most perfect knowledge of the most important truths in the right order of emphasis, accompanied by a total permanent disposition to live accordingly.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anirudh Kumar Satsan</title>
		<link>http://ihm.catholicism.org/2008/11/the-dangers-of-scientism-part-three/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Anirudh Kumar Satsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind and brain are two distinct things.  Brain is anatomical entity whereas mind is functional entity.  Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system (ANS).  It is claimed that mind can be brought under conscious control through the practice of meditation.  But how?  ANS is largely under hypothalamic control which is situated very close to optic chiasma (sixth chakra or ajna chakra).  Protracted practice of concentration to meditate at this region brings functions of ANS say mind under one’s conscious control.

ANS is further divided into parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS). On the basis of these facts  I have discovered a mathematical relationship for spiritual quotient (S.Q.).  Spiritual Quotient can be expressed mathematically as the ratio of Parasympathetic dominance (P.D.) to Sympathetic dominance (S.D.).  PSNS dominates during meditative calm and SNS dominates during stress.  In this formula we assign  numerical values to the physiological parameters activated or suppressed during autonomic mobilization and put in the formula to describe the state of mind of an individual and also infer his/her level of consciousness.

Protracted practice of meditation under qualified guidance will help to manage all sort of psychological problems.

I.Q.= Mental Age/Chronological Age x 100  (Wilhelm Stern)

E.Q. = I.Q. x Wisdom (Anirudh Kumar Satsangi)

S.Q. = P.D./S.D.
Anirudh Kumar Satsangi
B.Sc., M.A. (Psychology), B.Ed., Adv. Dip. in Mgt.
P.A. To  Director
Dayalbagh Educational Institute
(Deemed University)
Dayalbagh, Agra-282005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind and brain are two distinct things.  Brain is anatomical entity whereas mind is functional entity.  Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system (ANS).  It is claimed that mind can be brought under conscious control through the practice of meditation.  But how?  ANS is largely under hypothalamic control which is situated very close to optic chiasma (sixth chakra or ajna chakra).  Protracted practice of concentration to meditate at this region brings functions of ANS say mind under one’s conscious control.</p>
<p>ANS is further divided into parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS). On the basis of these facts  I have discovered a mathematical relationship for spiritual quotient (S.Q.).  Spiritual Quotient can be expressed mathematically as the ratio of Parasympathetic dominance (P.D.) to Sympathetic dominance (S.D.).  PSNS dominates during meditative calm and SNS dominates during stress.  In this formula we assign  numerical values to the physiological parameters activated or suppressed during autonomic mobilization and put in the formula to describe the state of mind of an individual and also infer his/her level of consciousness.</p>
<p>Protracted practice of meditation under qualified guidance will help to manage all sort of psychological problems.</p>
<p>I.Q.= Mental Age/Chronological Age x 100  (Wilhelm Stern)</p>
<p>E.Q. = I.Q. x Wisdom (Anirudh Kumar Satsangi)</p>
<p>S.Q. = P.D./S.D.<br />
Anirudh Kumar Satsangi<br />
B.Sc., M.A. (Psychology), B.Ed., Adv. Dip. in Mgt.<br />
P.A. To  Director<br />
Dayalbagh Educational Institute<br />
(Deemed University)<br />
Dayalbagh, Agra-282005</p>
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